athenaspupil (athenaspupil) wrote,
@ 2008-03-04 00:00:00

Things around here are quickly escalating and getting out of hands. Honestly, I'm surprised the Professors haven't insisted we give up these journals due to the amount of disrespect and derogative language used on a daily basis. Of course, the positives outweigh the negatives; they're great tools for speaking to each other when we all can't be in the same place, so I suppose that's their reasoning behind letting us keep them for now. Either way, I'd advise everyone to use more caution with what is said ~~and viewable~~ so publicly because anyone can read it.

Private to Self
While Ginny and I might be really great friends, there are some things that are extremely awkward to discuss. Harry's sex life (or lack thereof), for example. It's just weird hearing about how he doesn't care to do anything while here at Hogwarts yet Ginny does. While I do know that they're sharing the same bed, hearing such intrinsic details about one of my closest friends just doesn't seem to settle very well.

Perhaps I might have to eventually suggest having the same agreement as Ron and Harry - strictly no relationship details ever. Of course, there are time when I'll likely need her advice since Ginny obviously has more experience, but then it's incredibly awkward because she's with Harry and I'm with Ron, her brother. I'm sure she'd just love to hear any sorts of details I might have in the future about him.

Maybe there's a medium. Where neither of us go into a whole lot of detail, but just brush the surface so the other can get the general idea? I'll have to think on it for awhile. Though maybe not at all since this really is the only time she's brought it up...

Private to Ernie
Do you think there needs to be a Prefects meeting before the end of term and everyone goes home?

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ooc; zomg this is really long sorry!

smithey
2008-03-04 10:00 pm UTC (link)

Now you see this is my problem with that little aspect. Or rather problems.

1. You say no disrespectful and derogative language at school, but the moment you get outside of school it's basically all you hear. So I figure we might as well get people used to that sort of thing so they don't keel over from a heart attack as soon as they start to hear these things.

2. If we're going to have our journals being taken off for certain things can they be the same things around? People insult me for being a Hufflepuff and they think we're a bunch of pot smoking hippies who do nothing but cuddle all the day. In addition, I take serious offense to that, but they don't get points taken off even thought it's obviously derogative and at school. Moreover, not just Hufflepuffs, everyone insults everyone else at the school based on their house.

3. And then you'd also got to point out what is swearing. It's it telling someone to shut up and bugger off, or something to go fuck something out. Specifics would be nice thank you very much.

4. Then also threatening someone. Crabbe threatened to beat me up simply because I suggested to him that perhaps learning how to read and write would be helpful. And I was being sincere and honest in the way that I did it. It’s an eyesore and it really won’t help him later on in life.

5. What about you and everything you did in your previous years? You got points for them which really isn’t fair. If I did that I’d have detention until the end of the year, or perhaps even expelled. So who cares if you’re saving the world, you’re setting a bad example for the rest of us.

6. Free speech! And no I’m not talking about what those Weasley’s did with the explosions and the like. I’m talking about if I am angry and I want to express that in my journal I can get points docked if I write certain words. But it’s better than going out and punching someone right?

7. Finally, I think some people take points off because they don't like someone or because of their house. Which really isn't fair you know. Because I know I’ve had pointed removed in the past for being a Hufflepuff.

So perhaps we need to rethink these rules before we start taking points off yeah? I mean otherwise it just wouldn't be fair especially if someone got blamed for something that everyone else does as well.

See my points?

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ooc; definitely see the points! no need to apologize either

athenaspupil
2008-03-05 07:31 am UTC (link)

First of all, your points are justified and you make some rather interesting arguments. Second, I'll try to address them as well as I can, though some you might want to bring up with the Professors themselves.

I. Concerning Language: In the school handbook, this is laid out perfectly clear so I'd suggest referring to that as well. Any language that is deemed disrespectful and is considered a swear word is not allowed. The teachers have explicitly explained and demonstrated by giving detentions which words are appropriate and which are not. I, however, will not list them for you. I'd suggest taking it up with one of the Professors or even Mr. Filch if you want a complete list.

II. Regarding Threats: It's possible, like in all scenarios, that neither a teacher nor a Prefect sees a threat. My advice is to alert someone afterwards about it so that necessary actions can be taken to rectify the situation and so that the person doing the threatening can be properly punished. It also helps that said threats are written down in these journals - you have written proof in case your point is contested.

III. Saving the World: Though it's not really any of your concern, what Harry, Ron, and I have done in the past is explicitly that - what we did in the past. Now, if you would have preferred the school to be attacked more by a basilisk or for Voldemort to be around then by all means, continue questioning us and what we've done.

IV. Free Speech: Of course, this can't be taken away, but there are limitations to just how freely we can speak in a school. If it becomes a distraction to the learning environment or it doesn't let students feel safe and as if they can be comfortable here, then it will be limited to an extent.

V. Taking Points Unjustly: Prefects know better than to do this and should not take points based on a specific house or anything like that. If this is happening, you need to tell someone - Ernie and I, or even the Professors because that's a serious offense and they could get in a lot of trouble for that.

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smithey
2008-03-06 01:05 am UTC (link)

Aren't you the Head Girl though, i.e the gap between us and the Professors?

1. I hear some prefects saying the exact same words that I do and they don't get points taken away. Does that seem fair to you?

2. Alright then, Crabbe has threatened me on numerous accounts to beat me up. Not to mention he mentioned being sad about not beating someone up, might want to consider looking into that since it's there in big fucking</i> words ~~because the stupid inbred wanker can't write like a normal person.~~

3. ~~I'm a pureblood, I wouldn't have been affected.~~ I will admit that that time was perhaps justifiable, but what about the other times. It seems that the lot of you just got points out of nowhere for 'saving the world'. Might want to elaborate on that.

4. This journals as far as I was aware had nothing to do with school or the learning environment so why can't I say what I want to say? Isn't oppression what leads into wars?

5. Alright. I know I've had points taken off because I'm a Hufflepuff before, ~~not really~~, does this mean I get them back now?

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