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☆ Siehe meine Krone? Ich bin König. ☆ ([info]hammerofjustice) wrote in [info]ttooc,
@ 2009-12-15 05:02:00


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Ahaha, I'm nervous about posting this. I had an idea and I know how well those go over because they are never over the top, ridiculous, or poorly thought out. I know. So Im going to gather my thoughts and present them as best as possible and hope somebody realizes my vision!


OK! So I've notice that the rp tends to be a little slow. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I feel a touch sad for our characters as there is a sense of complacency in traverse town as there is not much in the way of conflict or drama with a few sprinkles here and there. There are a lot of reasons for this, we are a small community, people tend to flock to each other from the same series/friends irl, awkwardness interacting with characters you aren't familiar with, and a general lack of villains and conflict. This last part I know is due to me as I play two of the villains which are in scarcity. The last part culminates into the largest problem I see which is no actual overlaying storyline.

Without a proper storyline, we fall into a complacent state and just go about everyday mundane buisness with little to no character development or reason to band together with characters one normally would not interact with. The reason we mostly stick to characters from our own series (I too am guilty of this, so don't think I'm pointing fingers at anybody) is because it is familiar territory and there really is not much reason to interact with others except out of boredom or they happen to be passing or show up in the same thread.

So my idea is this, let us work together to improve the community. It is a fine community, with fine members, and an interesting idea. We just need to band together and help it grow. Advertising, coming up with an overlaying plot, perhaps that bulletin board idea that's been brought up a few times, perhaps even take more effort to get to know each other and our characters to make us a stronger community as a whole.

My idea for an overlaying plotline was this. I rolled it around in my brain and it sounded good even though there would still be many details to work out in the way it was executed. Since I play Xemnas I was thinking, since he regained power and rebuilt The World That Never Was, I had this far fetched idea that perhaps he had a magical book that contained the names of all fictional characters within the world. I dont know HOW because it's just magic. Anyway, like this book is just a book of the world everybody is in, so he could rewrite things and make things happen that ordinarily wouldnt. Like he could change the sky or put in buildings and scenes that weren't there. The things he does could be posted in either ooc or in the regular comm at the start of these 'events' and then later when it's over. These events could be character specific and taken as suggestions from players. I'd even be willing to make Xemnas an NPC so all the mods could be in control of what happens.

So like, for example say Xemnas wrote that the First District appeared to be on fire, it wouldnt REALLY be on fire but it would look that way and characters could interact thusly.

An example of something character specific would be like, Zelos saw an illusion of his mother's death. Nobody else could see it but him. Personal illusions dont have to be sad or tragic, they could be happy and silly just the same!

It sounds really choppy right now because I'm getting nervous with this post and my brain is locking up in all kinds of unattractive ways. The basic point is that destroying this storybook and/or whoever is behind it and/or finding out who is behind this is they key. Since all of these weird things would just happen randomly and nobody would know why. I think it could make for interesting stories! I could even say that players could have things happen to them personally that we could chalk up to this magical book Xemmers is playing with and have the big events posted by mods.

I know, it sounds a mess. It was just an idea. I'd love for us to band together and think up an overlaying plotline to get more people motivated! We're a great bunch of roleplayers and I only bring this up because I know we are all creative enough to help strengthen the community!

As a closing note, I'd like to add that this post was not intended for complaining, drama, finger pointing, and the like. It's also not an official post and nothing official is going on, it's just a discussion post with the possibility that something may happen. It's just as much to assume that nothing at all will come of this post. So please don't be confused! I just would like to hear what people think! We don't bro out enough together! Open discussion! Go! ♥



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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 01:06 pm UTC (link)
I've had character development.. I don't know about everyone else but I'm pretty damn sure I've had character development and I'm noting some other characters not my own that've grown. A lot of character development. Yup. Don't say there wasn't any!

Xemnas' magic book sounds like....welll the Death Note, which could make people hallucinate things technically. :/~ Sounds a little unfair Xemnas would randomly get one of those. Why not just set the first district on fire for real man?

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 03:34 pm UTC (link)
Ah~ I didn't mean to infer that we haven't had character development at all. I was meaning in sort of a broader plotline oriented sense cause yeah, people have had character development myself included. So yes, my apologies for making it sound like we haven't had any.

Haha! Now that you mention it I guess it does sound like a Death Note. I thought illusions might work better because I thought you and Vi weren't down with blatant destruction of property.

Though I still would like to formulate on the possibility of a more overlaying plotline, like a goal characters work towards in the broad sense.

I'm sure like this post, I make little to no sense when I'm explaining my pov. It's lacking proper hand gestures.

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:25 pm UTC (link)
I GET IT! *waves arms maniacally* And I want destruction up in this bitch. :( It makes for interesting plots! And besides, we have Ed Elric here now, he can fix things in like 5 seconds with alchemy!!!

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Ah~ That is true. Ed is a very good handy man!

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:34 pm UTC (link)
Deathnote isn't the first series to explore this. I don't like how everyone thinks "deathnote!" when this sort of plot device is used... :x I mean, they rewrite that one nun's cinematic record in Kuroshitsuji anime does that mean they're ripping off Deathnote too?

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 05:38 pm UTC (link)
Well...no. It's not. I'm just saying why add another book when someone already basically has one? ^^;; We aren't going to randomly give Xemnas cinematic records either, ya know?

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:43 pm UTC (link)
Why not? Because it ruins KH canon? I dunno the idea of a main plot intrigues me. It'll be nice to have something going on and it not all just be a random mish mash of people basically going HEY I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE HOW THESE TWO CHARACTERS WOULD INTERACT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF REASONING OR EXPLANATION! and then it's just a long thread of a drawn out conversation that should have ended 5 comments ago, but no one wants to end it 'cause it's so fun so you keep drawing it out. At least this way we wouldn't have to just keep drawing it out, we'd have a good reason to keep it going..!

Plus the "let's find a way out of here" thing is cliched and old. We need a new plot device.

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 05:48 pm UTC (link)
Nooo because well... how the hell did Xemnas become Mister Ihasamagicbook. He's more of a scientisty gunna carry out actions through minions. AND I LIKE MY LONG ASS THREADS. THEY AREN'T MEANINGLESS OKAY. D:

:/ I joined the roleplay because it didn't have the EVERYONEISTOTALLYINVOLVEDWITHTHISVILLIAN'SPLOT thing going...

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:51 pm UTC (link)
I didn't say they were meaningless. Like, at all. Fun and meaningless totally not the same word...

Well before you joined I think Xemmers was gonna do something but then life happened to D so that got side tracked. Yeah iirc she had these ideas when it got started? idk.

What's wrong with a little plot? And really it's optional in the sense that people can just ignore it. Am I misunderstanding something? I don't get how a plot is ever a bad thing...

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 06:18 pm UTC (link)
You didn't say fun though I was talkin' about how you made it sound like all are threads are plotless and thus idk meaningless?

Now I'm confused you made it sound like this thing was 'THE STORYLINE' now not just like 'a storyline' Plot is good but not if everything had to focus on it, yeah?

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Yes I did... "but no one wants to end it 'cause it's so fun so you keep drawing it out. At least this way we wouldn't have to just keep drawing it out, we'd have a good reason to keep it going..!"

I don't know what it is! D: I'm not D, but as I am understanding it, it's not like RAWRS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS I mean, maybe just a few people will want to? Like not everyone in an anime is always after the bad guy there's always like people walking around on the streets. We don't all have to be the 'protagonists.'

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Yeah I can see that. I'm saying you're also saying that it's getting drawn out without good reason bb. Isn't fun a reaaaally good reason to keep going?

I wasn't saying it was rawrs or anything it's like.. nevermind. OKAY! Lemmie try this over. You know right now we got this nice interesting thing going where Sephiroth told Rolo to watch out for Cloud so now people are out to get Cloud while on the other hand Cloud is warning people to watch out for Sephiroth~~? We should just let that keep developing on it's own since it could totally turn out into a TEAM A VS TEAM B thinking they're both the goodguys thing going already got something developing on it's own without being like.. SOMETHING EVIL IS HERE NOW, ya get me?

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Not if it does get boring later... :x I mean it's great if you like it but it's not for me. I don't like long threads if they devolve into "Hey" "hey" "How are you" "good, you?" "good" "so..." "yeah..?" I'm not saying that's what your threads are like, I admit I don't read any threads I'm not in/planning on joining. I'm too busy for that. :| So I don't know. I'm only speaking for myself.

Like I said I don't know how D is planning this whole thing. I am all for some plot, or at least, some destruction and mayhem. Let Deadpool blow up a building and see what happens! It might be fun!

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 06:49 pm UTC (link)
See there's the thing I haven't gotten bored with them. You start a new one when it's time to end it that's all. You just need to do some more interesting things in the threads! ^^? Maybe try to pick up a chick or something there's things to do in the threads...

See we should do that! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING! JUST BLOW SOMETHING UP. We don't need to give people magic books and sinister stories and complicated plot devices we have to make up that involve the entire roleplay to work in and we don't have to assign a main villian. Bad guys doing bad things it's simple!

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[info]strawberrytea
2009-12-15 08:10 pm UTC (link)
You could blow up a building the only problem is you still need EVERYONE who uses that buildings consent otherwise people can and probably would call god modding or get upset because they didn't want to work around such a thing at the moment. (I mean my god I've seen people get upset or frustrated about being god modded into a room so we can't just force them to deal with a blown up building.)

I'm all for doing things though. Sadly it has to be compromised to a level everyone can be happy with otherwise it's just forcing storylines or what you want on to other people.

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 09:52 pm UTC (link)
I understand what you're saying and it's a very good point. I was just thinking broadly with the hopes of either different ideas or ideas on how to mold the one I had. I wasn't trying to force anything on anybody.

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-16 03:19 am UTC (link)
Like I said, that sort of thing isn't for me, that's why my threads don't last to long. I go in, do what I want to do, and get out. I don't wait around to 'see what will happen.' XD It's just how I personally rp. You do it the way you wanna, it's cool. Not bashing anyone.

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[info]heartlocket
2009-12-15 04:42 pm UTC (link)
In my experience personally it's hard to have a huge all character encompassing plot because one can hardly get everyone together. Everyone to actually participate and then also to get everyone to agree on things. In a cross fandom RP sometimes people don't always understand that their canon won't necessarily be law. Plus then there is always the fact that people will want to become the sparkly important person. :x I would like to work our way up to this but I think we'd need baby steps.

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I imagine we could work towards it in the form of small events. It'll make for a more interesting plot this way..!

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[info]heartlocket
2009-12-15 05:28 pm UTC (link)
:| I may just be bias and wary about massive group things because the last time we tried one I felt extremely unwanted and pushed out like they had a set way they wanted it to go and didn't want me there at all.

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:31 pm UTC (link)
Well the way I'm understanding this (and I could be wrong) is that this "main plot" will be done in a way to include everyone since it will encompass the entire world. I mean if Xemnas turns the sky yellow, everyone will notice...

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[info]powerpuff
2009-12-15 05:40 pm UTC (link)
PEE SKY. D:

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 05:45 pm UTC (link)
It'll be like /b/ is trying to hack into T-town.

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[info]falsejustice
2009-12-15 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I get that I guess I was just expressing a little wary of that possibility arising? Seeing as it seemed people voiced problems with it in the past :x

Also shouldn't you guys finish your big football event first? Hasn't that been going on or trying to go on for over a month now?

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 06:32 pm UTC (link)
It's not techinically my event, to be fair. It's [info]bar_ohki's. I just have some characters participating in it... and the only reason it's been dragged out like it has is because a lot of the participants aren't online at the same times due to the holidays.

I imagine that this overlaying plot wouldn't go into affect until the new year, if people really wanted it, that is.

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[info]girlgenius
2009-12-15 10:53 pm UTC (link)
(ooc: Is [info]bar_ohki)

Axel's comment is the truth along with two other reasons. One was to a) not rush people and b) get the logistics down because that event has a lot of them.

Does that help?

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 09:58 pm UTC (link)
I feel 'ya. I was just thinking on a broad scale without paying to details as I am prone to do. With an overlaying plotline, while it would effect everybody not everybody has to band together or ther ehas to be a sparkley person, I def know what you're talking about with that.

It would just be a reason or goal to work towards if that makes sense. Haha, Im so terrible at explaining myself.

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[info]girlgenius
2009-12-15 10:54 pm UTC (link)
I just followed that completely. You don't give yourself enough credit.

And I'm all for that idea.

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[info]bar_ohki
2009-12-15 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm personally all for having some overlaying plot. I know our public events help with that a bit (the Zombie thing did involve a lot of different people interacting).

I don't mind Xemnas having a magic book and turning him into an NPC to put in plot devices. I think the issue isn't KH cannon anymore as much as it is RP cannon. We've already strayed from the KH cannon and made there be several eateries, more rooms at the Inn, the Item Shop sells bullets, a gun shop in the second district, a market, the combining of worlds through the big door in the first district, excreta- what's one more?

I think that it isn't right to give Xemnas the character played by a single person an item, but if he was a mod NPC, I would totally not mind.

Ah, anyways, that's my two cents about that.

As for a plot, I mentioned before that Agatha has the Other inside of her. Perhaps we could release her out for a bit where she started building some really huge mechanical monstrosities and tried to take over the town, only to thwarted after a long, hard fight where people find some unexpected allies?

She can also alter biological creatures and make those into monsters too. So if we want mutant cows that eat people's hair, we can totally have them.

Also, mods willing, she could alter and 'level up' some of the heartless in town to make things a bit more interesting~

I dunno, I think I big enemy attack where lots of people get kidnapped and almost turned into science experiments would work nicely. Or if their muns were willing, actually turned into science experiments, permanently altering an aspect of that character.

...I think I'll stop talking now and let people reply.

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-15 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Xemnas is played by a mod, actually. Or am I misunderstanding?

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I play Xemnas but I am comfortable with the idea of turning him into an NPC for the purposes of the RP yanno? So me, you, vi, and jackie would have a hand in what goes down.

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[info]girlgenius
2009-12-15 10:51 pm UTC (link)
No no, I mean by all mods if they're going to do that so that there's consensus about thing and not just one person making the decision.

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[info]outofcontext
2009-12-15 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey slow down here. Whatever happened to the Host Club thing I was promised I could participate in?

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 10:06 pm UTC (link)
I haven't forgot! Honest! I'm still working on details of exactly how it would work and if people would participate in the resturant/events and a name!

The idea is def still there and it is being worked on, promise! After the holidays everything should be worked out for the host club.

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[info]omegatrinity
2009-12-15 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I totally said this to you last night but just as a general comment, wouldn't Xemnas be able to obtain this book because ZEXION (who works UNDER him obvs -even though he worked to overthrow Xemnas) has a book that he can create illusions with. That way we could stick to canon and your idea would totally still work. I don't know if anyone will read this, just thought I'd add :3

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 10:08 pm UTC (link)
I don't know much about Zexion but I do know we don't have one, but that would make sense if it were true! That would mean it wasn't out of the realm of possibility.

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[info]omegatrinity
2009-12-16 01:23 am UTC (link)
Even if we don't have one, you could say he got it from him :3?

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[info]kiokushitaka
2009-12-16 03:09 am UTC (link)
THIS THIS THIS. People always forget Zexion.

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[info]strawberrytea
2009-12-15 08:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm just going to say what I've said to any and all plots. As long as everyone involved approves and everyone who it effects approves then go for it. Otherwise *sad face* It's been the general rule of thumb for all plots so I guess we just stick to it. XD

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-15 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I feel ya bro. You know me, my mind says one thing and it's out of my mouth (or through my fingers) before I even finish thinking about it.

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[info]red_death
2009-12-16 03:55 am UTC (link)
Ooh nice icon! ^^v

For what it's worth I like the idea of an overlying plot. :)

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[info]hammerofjustice
2009-12-16 04:02 am UTC (link)
Whaa, I gotta say your Grell inspires me to maybe possibly think about possibly checking out kuroshitsuji! You def made me feel the Grell love.

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[info]red_death
2009-12-16 04:06 am UTC (link)
He's amazing! I'm glad that you like my portrait of him!

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